Gate/Env length mod with a pot?

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Gate/Env length mod with a pot?

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I had someone ask me about this and I have never even heard of this mod. I thought the note length was set by the sequencer (I know sending midi notes, they can be longer or shorter) so if anyone has any info/links, lets hear it. They are under the impression that you can set the note length with a potentiometer...

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Re: Gate/Env length mod with a pot?

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nah, the gate signal is sent by the cpu
the length is based on the internal dinsync clock ticks, thus it can be modded easily with the firmware
this is how shuffle is done

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Re: Gate/Env length mod with a pot?

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I know it can be done in firmware, I was asking about a hardware mod..

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Re: Gate/Env length mod with a pot?

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maybe you're confusing this with the ADSR mod's Release time pot :roll:

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Re: Gate/Env length mod with a pot?

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No, I am not confusing it with anything. The person was specific about a mod that involves one pot to set the note length (gate/env). Either it exists or not..

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Re: Gate/Env length mod with a pot?

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the sequencer sets the gate length
you could make a mod to have it controllable
but it wouldnt be easy
and would probably be really confusing as you changed tempo

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Re: Gate/Env length mod with a pot?

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gotcha. that's what I figured..

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Re: Gate/Env length mod with a pot?

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guest wrote:the sequencer sets the gate length
you could make a mod to have it controllable
but it wouldnt be easy
and would probably be really confusing as you changed tempo
Agreed, especially if it was an analog solution.

Now, if a firmware solution was implemented, would it be possible to code it to accept note-length data from an additional encoder? Also, could that note-length be coded as a duty cycle, so that note-length would be proportional to tempo?

I've never asked, or seen this mentioned, but does any version of x0x firmware respond to midi CC messages? If so, could variable note length be one of the controllable parameters? Sorry if this is a stupid thought/question, I've been stuck in the analog world so long much that I knew about midi has leaked out of my brain...

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Re: Gate/Env length mod with a pot?

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In midi play mode, it works perfectly so you really dont need CCs anyway, just send shorted notes. I talked to my customer and he saw it on a VSTi, so it is a moot point :)

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Re: Gate/Env length mod with a pot?

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Venom VB-303 (beta and beta2) use the old N0NSeq sequencer which has variable step length per step
here's some demo (beta2, just using some random stuff) link
i decided this isn't a really nice feature and removed it from N0NS3q
this could be added to a x0xb0x firmware too, no problem
but it'll require yet some more pattern memory and yet another pattern format
there is an easier option, global step length (for all steps)
this is very do-able and doesn't require memory
another option - step length per pattern, so just 1 additional variable per pattern will be stored, and each pattern can have it's own step length

well, i still wouldn't put this in a x0xb0x firmware, it could be done by a softsynth sequencer.. :roll:

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Re: Gate/Env length mod with a pot?

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I can see what guest was talking about though with the tempo. If you think about it, it would be a nightmare to deal with if it was a hardware control instead of a soft one since the note length goes down when the tempo speeds up..

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