Re: MarOS1.0.1 *new firmware - lots of new features*

by Paradigm X on Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:34 am

Yeah, the MIDI sync in pattern edit worked in SOKKOS 1.9.

Its a nice feature but not life or death (to me at least).
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Re: MarOS1.0.1 *new firmware - lots of new features*

by mario1089 on Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:45 am

Then I ll try to make it work again. Would be a good improvement to the workflows.
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Re: MarOS1.0.1 *new firmware - lots of new features*

by Paradigm X on Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:38 am

The way it worked was pretty cool, but while you're playing, it may be possible to improve?

Basically, it had to be in midisync mode when starting, and then you turn the knob to go to pattern edit and it works. But then it wont start again without the knob being twisted back to midi sync mode.

Maybe it could always sync to midi?

Like i say, not a major issue, it would be cool either way.

Nice one, still need to uplaod your latest one.

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Re: MarOS1.0.1 *new firmware - lots of new features*

by mario1089 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:31 am

I fixed the MIDI sync when going to edit mode from MIDI sync mode, and I almost finished variable gate length, but as you can see here:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=34113

things may take a while to finish.

Stupid me :(
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Re: MarOS1.0.1 *new firmware - lots of new features*

by roxxx303 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:27 am

antto wrote:yup... viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29282
it's not just for uploading firmware, it is supposed to do everything that c0ntr0l does, and runs on win32/osx :mrgreen: .. it seems it's very unpopular even that a bunch of months passed since it was released :?


Perhaps it's the commandline-GUI that prevents popularity? :wink:
Control works for me, never tested your proggie... (But like your AcidTunes :) )
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Re: MarOS1.0.1 *new firmware - lots of new features*

by antto on Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:13 am

c0ntr0l is very sensitive to some conditions, doesn't give you almost no error messages
for example - change your USB-Serial settings (in the driver) and c0ntr0l will fail without giving you any clue why

backing up the patterns never worked for me, 128 patterns * 16bytes == 2048bytes (2kB) .. c0ntr0l creates .xbp files of about 1.7 - 1.8kB which is not all patterns, AND it never gives any error or warning about this, so i lost some patterns the very first time, when i look at the file i see it's not 2kB, too late
not to mention that importing them back in didn't quite work either

composing patterns in c0ntr0l - tried to use it once, i think there was a bug with it
then i made my own firmware which uses completely different pattern format - c0ntr0l simply is not an option

c0nb0x was supposed to fix all these issues, i didn't think i can figure how the firmware flashing works, so i only hoped to have a more stable tool for backing up my patterns safely every time
not only that this works now, but it has pattern editor with TB-303-style programming, AND it works on both stock firmware / sokkos and n0nx0x (automagically converts the patterns to the x0x format)
individual patterns can be imported/exported, and it uses a format which i use in my soft synth which itself works with a few more formats like ABL2 .pat, qs303 .syx, text-based .303 format

don't let the GUI fool you, it's not as if you have to type in commands like a mad h4x0r
most of the time you can click the menus with the mouse
it was a priority to make the UI simple enough and yet easy and fast to operate..

btw, i have a new track on my youtube account
We are here too: irc.freenode.net >>> #x0xb0x
..:: c0nb0x v1.00 ::.. http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29282 (new control app - win/osx)
VCO Tuning: http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=24759 (do it the EASY way)
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Re: MarOS1.0.1 *new firmware - lots of new features*

by roxxx303 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:12 am

antto wrote:c0ntr0l is very sensitive to some conditions, doesn't give you almost no error messages
for example - change your USB-Serial settings (in the driver) and c0ntr0l will fail without giving you any clue why
...
it was a priority to make the UI simple enough and yet easy and fast to operate..

btw, i have a new track on my youtube account


Hi antto,

thanks for the detailed description of the advantages of your program!
I think I must give it a try! This evening I will test it!

Never tried to restore the saved patterns from file with c0ntr0l because till now I haven't created more than 128 Patterns! But if this doesn't work this would be a reason to use c0nb0x or safebox!

Question: Is it possible to implement the ability to import abl2 or rebirth patterns with c0nb0x?
That would rock!

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Re: MarOS1.0.1 *new firmware - lots of new features*

by antto on Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:24 am

we should discuss this in the c0nb0x thread

my softsynth supports loading ABL patterns and saves to .NSP (so c0nb0x can load .NSP patterns)
i don't want to overcrowd c0nb0x with all those pattern formats
instead, i planned to make a sepparate menu for (offline) managing of patterns between NSP / CXM / PAT files
or a standalone app <- this might be the best way actually

as for your c0ntr0l patterns just check your .xbp files, if they are less than 2kB - c0ntr0l didn't work
We are here too: irc.freenode.net >>> #x0xb0x
..:: c0nb0x v1.00 ::.. http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29282 (new control app - win/osx)
VCO Tuning: http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=24759 (do it the EASY way)
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Re: MarOS1.0.1 *new firmware - lots of new features*

by roxxx303 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:31 am

antto wrote:we should discuss this in the c0nb0x thread

my softsynth supports loading ABL patterns and saves to .NSP (so c0nb0x can load .NSP patterns)
i don't want to overcrowd c0nb0x with all those pattern formats
instead, i planned to make a sepparate menu for (offline) managing of patterns between NSP / CXM / PAT files
or a standalone app <- this might be the best way actually

as for your c0ntr0l patterns just check your .xbp files, if they are less than 2kB - c0ntr0l didn't work


Hi antto,

1. My c0ntr0l-files are 2,26 KB (2.315 bytes). Is that ok?
2. Where is the c0nb0x-thread?
3. Where is the link to your softsynth?
4. Where do you live?

Cheers!
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Re: MarOS1.0.1 *new firmware - lots of new features*

by antto on Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:10 am

weird, lets assume the .xbp files are "good"
c0nb0x thread: link in my signature, the thread is currently being bumped
v0.99 had a silly bug so .xbp files won't load, this is fixed in v1.00 (which is gonna be out these days)
my softsynth is a bit far from release state, sadly..
i live in bulgaria (EU)
We are here too: irc.freenode.net >>> #x0xb0x
..:: c0nb0x v1.00 ::.. http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29282 (new control app - win/osx)
VCO Tuning: http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=24759 (do it the EASY way)
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Re: MarOS1.0.1 *new firmware - lots of new features*

by pangrus on Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:57 am

@mario
I'll patiently wait for a new release and I hope you'll solve your problem soon!
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Re: MarOS1.0.1 *new firmware - lots of new features*

by Paradigm X on Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:50 am

Yeah, good luck getting it sorted man.

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Re: MarOS1.2(!!!) new firmware - MORE new features

by mario1089 on Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:38 pm

DONE.

See the first post of this thread to be updated for version 1.2. Full documentation is part of the zip.


-- Variable Gate Length!!
-- Added a new feature for automatic random runtime variations.
-- Fixed the bug when going to patt edit from MIDI mode.
-- Some other bugs fixed.
-- Reactivated USER-A / PAT-EDIT (MIDI) mode


Guys, never thought I`d be ever back in the days when it was about saving single bytes. What a fun. Code gets more and more unreadable because of the little tricks to save some damn bytes, but yeah, back in the 80s. Keyboard mode misses slides, accents, octaves now, you`d better use the original firmware while you`re building..

Have fun,
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Re: MarOS1.2(!!!) new firmware - MORE new features

by pangrus on Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:47 am

Amazing! The way to select automatic randomizing is tricky but the results really blow my mind away.
I'll test the new release deeply in the next days, but the first impression is that everything is working fine.
Thanks Mario for the great job. (are you italian?)
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Re: MarOS1.2(!!!) new firmware - MORE new features

by rarara on Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:03 am

am a bit confused reading the pdf (not installed and tested yet :cry: ) as new swing says "in pattern play mode and hold the chain button while pressing Prev/Next to step through the depths" and variable gate length also seems to say "In pattern play mode, hold CHAIN and press PREV / NEXT to decrease/increase
the gate length
"

am i missing something?
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