MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 2 - with sounddemo
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MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 2 - with sounddemo

by mario1089 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:16 pm

A new day, a new thread, a new name, a new firmware: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1.

So what`s the story?

Until MarOS1.4 - which is "frozen" now - I tried to keep everybody happy, not removing anything important. But to implement the last missing feature I had to remove everything that`s not essential: All synchronisation features except MIDI clock in, and the randomizer mode (the one playing silly melodies). You will have to buy some MIDI clock to DinSync converter, if you want to keep your roland gear in sync, instead of misusing your xoxbox to do that job, and btw, with that removed the xoxbox runs tighter when MIDI synced, significantly.

So with these things removed I was able to implement the missing feature:

Additional double-tempo / 1/32 note / sub steps.

Unlike how this sounds like, this does not mean you have 16 fully editable extra steps. This would have broken the entire step editing workflow and invalidated all your existing patterns. Instead, the new feature is handled with so called slide modes:

With MarOS Pro you have 8 different slide modes. Per step.

To use the feature, go to step editing mode, then to a step that is a slide or make it a slide. Then press the the slide button and hold it. You will see the C,D,E..C2 key (the "white" keys) showing the current slide mode (defaulting to C-Key, slide mode 1, "normal"). While the slide key is held, you can now press any of the "white" keys to select any of the other 7 new slide modes. See the attached picture to understand what they do.
While step editing, when a non-default slide type is set, you will see the slide LED to blink instead of being constantly lit.

That`s basically it, but some words about your old patterns and the new OS.

1) When you switch to MarOS Pro,your old pattern will be all fine and the same as before.
2) When you play around with the slide modes and then go back to a different OS, all will be as before and no problems will occur, except all special slides will be normal again.
3) If you want to dump patterns that use special slides, use conbox and the "export eeprom" option and nothing else.
4) If you have any other problem, contact me here. There`s an easy solution for everything, but I`m too lazy to write it all down now.

Ahh, not to forget: In randomizer mode, you can randomize the glide types by quickly double pressing the slide button, and automatic variations of slide type are handled when pressing the C2 key in parameter adjustment mode.

sound demo attached.
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1

by darffader on Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:36 am

Some sound samples that demonstrate the new sequencer options would be nice :)
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1

by mario1089 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:55 am

Some sound samples that demonstrate the new sequencer options would be nice


Yeah, but was afraid the acid community would mainly b.itch about my patterns be not exactly what they think a 303 is made for:)

So, gimme a good acid line and I do some slide mode stuff with it to show you.

Cheers,
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1

by rarara on Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:19 am

Sounds like a good idea for those of us without old roland gear ( :cry: ).....I might be being thick though, but don't understand your diagram. Hopefully will make more sense when I try it out later. Just one question though....

Is MIDI OUT also disabled along with dinsync etc?
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1

by darffader on Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:23 am

mario1089 wrote:
Some sound samples that demonstrate the new sequencer options would be nice


Yeah, but was afraid the acid community would mainly b.itch about my patterns be not exactly what they think a 303 is made for:)

So, gimme a good acid line and I do some slide mode stuff with it to show you.

Cheers,
Mario


Damn dont worry about that __ I'd love to hear any non cliché use of the 303!!!
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1

by mario1089 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:25 am

Is MIDI OUT also disabled along with dinsync etc?


unfortunately: yes.
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1

by pangrus on Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:25 am

Great stuff!
It's time to buy a midi to din sync converter, I think.
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1

by mario1089 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:10 am

Great stuff!


so, could you show us what you did?
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1

by mario1089 on Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:22 pm

so here`s 2 patterns that use "special" slide modes. Nothing spectacular, just some extra 1/32 notes. But then again very spectacular when thinking about that this has been always impossible with any 303 sequencer or all its derivats.
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1 - with sounddemo

by darffader on Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:51 am

nice!

i did some similar things it the past using dinsync retrigger (from software)
it wasn't per note, but the effect is similar
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1 - with sounddemo

by gurth on Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:45 pm

Great work especially the timing upgrade...

Do i understand this right? Are those pattern trigger functions etc. Included in this OS. Or only in 1.4 version?

Great job anyway, music is all about timing.....
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1 - with sounddemo

by mario1089 on Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:49 pm

Well, all I did for MarOS1.4 is also in this one, except the swung sync out, as there are *no* sync outs in this one...

To bring it down, if you don`t need DinSync and no Sync out, take this one. If you do, well, think..:)
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1 - with sounddemo

by gurth on Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:16 am

He Mario,

I really am impressed.....

This will be the new standard I believe, those random features make a pattern really allive.

Many thanks...
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 1 - with sounddemo

by mario1089 on Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:39 am

Thanx! yeah, I agree the variations make a lot of fun and I nice difference. Using them a lot!

Nevertheless, be aware there is a really bad bug in the firmware: When going to edit mode while the box is playing, then after editing pressing DONE two times to store the edits, the box will overwrite the first pattern of the bank - not the one you`re in.

I`ll post a fix for that tonight.
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Re: MarOS Pro 1.0 - beta 2 - with sounddemo

by mario1089 on Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:37 pm

So, here is a new version BETA 2 with a fix for saving patterns by double pressing DONE in pattern edit mode. Important fix!

Would be cool if someone could confirm anything else kinda worx.

Btw, something I forgot to mention: The option to set MIDI channels for MIDI input and output was also removed (for the bytes, the bytes..). Send/Recieves on channel 1 always.
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