HOW TO BUILD A DISCO PANEL WITH SINGLE PRE-WIRED RGB LEDS

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HOW TO BUILD A DISCO PANEL WITH SINGLE PRE-WIRED RGB LEDS

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HI I AM DOIN A PROJECT AT MY NITE CLUB

I AM BUILDING 5 DIFFERENT PANELS OF GLASS BRICKS EACH CONSISTING OF 5 OR 6 HORIZONTAL ROWS OF GLASS BRICKS WHICH WILL BE ILLUMINATED BY INDIVIDUAL LED PIXELS INSIDE EACH GLASS BRICK.EACH GLASS BRICK MUST BE CONTROLED INDIVIDUALLY TO CREATE DIFFERENT PRE-PROGRAMMED PATTERNS OF MY CHOICE IN COLOURS OF MY CHOICE INCLUDING LIGHT SHOW BY THE BEAT OF THE MUSIC. THE GLASS BRICKS ARE 200MMX200MM X 80MM DEEP.I AM HOPING THAT ONE LED PER BRICK WILL BE ENOUGH TO LIGHT IT UP SUFFICIENTLY. I AM DRILLING 16MM HOLES ON THE SIDE OF THE BRICK TO INSERT A COPPER ELBOW OF 16MM. THIS ELBOW WIL BE BUILT INTO THE PANEL WITH SPECIAL CEMENT INBETWEEN THE BRICKS. THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ELBOW IS INSERTED INTO A 16MM WIDE ELECTRICAL PLASTIC DUCT THAT RUNS VERTICALLY BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT ROWS OF BRICKS .THIS WILL MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO REPLACE FAULTY LEDS IN FUTURE. BECAUSE ALL THE WIRING WIL RUN VERTICALLY IN THE DUCT.THE ELBOW WILL ONLY ALLOW A LED OF NO BIGGER THAN 12MM BECAUSE IT MUST BE INSERTED AROUND A BEND AND NOT STRAIGHT INTO THE BRICK. I CANNOT MAKE THE DUCTING BIGGER THAN 16MM COS IT WILL NOT LOOK NICE IF THE (WHITE) FRAME AROUND EACH BLOCK IS BIGGER THAN THAT (ALMOST LIKE THE GROUTING BETWEEN TILES) PANELS WILL BE VISIBLE FROM FRONT AND BACK BECAUSE SUM OF THEM WIL BE UTILISED AS ROOM DEVIDERS,SO THE LED PIXELS CANNOT BE INSERTED FROM THE BACK AS IN THE CASE OF A VIDEO WALL.THE RESULT WILL BE THAT ALL THE WIRING MUST RUN VERTICALLY UP INBETWEEN EACH ROW OF GLASS BRICKS AND AT THE TOP OF THE PANEL ALL THE WIRES WIL ENTER A BIGGER ELECTRICAL DUCT THAT RUNS HORIZONTALY ACROSS THE LENGTH OF THE PANEL TO THE CONTROLLERS,POWER SOURCE,DJ MIXER, ETC

PANEL 1 ( O=GLASS BRICKS AND I=DUCTING FOR WIRING INBETWEEN GLASS BRICKS)

_______________________<11m panel>______________________<14m wiring from panel to dmx controllers etc>
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52 BRICKS HORIZONTALLY BY 5 BRICKS VERTICALLY=260 PIXELS


PANEL 2 ( O=GLASS BRICKS AND I=DUCTING FOR WIRING INBETWEEN GLASS BRICKS)


_________________<6m panel>____________________<10m wiring to panels3,4,5>
OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO
OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO
OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO
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OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO

25 BRICKS HORIZONTALLY AND 5 BRICKS VERTICALLY=125 PIXELS


PANEL 3,4,5 ( O=GLASS BRICKS AND I=DUCTING FOR WIRING INBETWEEN GLASS BRICKS)
__<2m panel>_____<3m gap>___<2m panel>____<3m gap>___<2m panel>____<10m wiring to dmx controlers etc>
OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO
OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO
OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO
OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO
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OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO OIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO

3 PANELS OF (9 BRICKS HORIZONTALLY AND 6 BRICKS VERTICALLY)= 54X3= 162

SO IN TOTAL I WIL RECQUIRE 260+125+162 = 547 PIXELS ALL INDIVIDUALLY CONTROLLED
I AM NOT SURE HOW MANY CONTROLERS,POWER SUPPLIES ETC I WIL NEED PLEASE ADVISE ME FURTHER

PANEL 1 MUST BE CONTROLLED SEPARATELY AND MUST BE ABLE TO FUNCTION INDEPENDANTLY
PANEL 2,3,4,5 IS IN THE SAME ROOM AND MUST BE CONTROLLED INDEPENDANTLY AS WELL AS TOGETHER
PLEASE SUPPLY ME YOR TELEPHONE NUM AND CODE THAT I MUST FONE FROM SOUTH BANNED

BEST REGARDS
GERT CLAASSEN (VRYHEID LODGE)

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Re: HOW TO BUILD A DISCO PANEL WITH SINGLE PRE-WIRED RGB LEDS

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IM THINKIN OF USING YOR PRE-WIRED 10MM LEDS BUT WILL THEY BE STRONG ENUF TO LIGHT UP THE GLASS BRICK?

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CORRECTION : IM THINKIN OF USING YOR 12MM RGB ADDRESSABLE LED PIXELS . BUT WILL THEY BE STRONG ENOUGH TO LIGHT UP THE 20CM X 20CM GLASS BRICK? PLEASE HELP!!! I AM IN SOUTH BANNED AND NOBODY CAN HELP ME HERE!

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HI GERT,

I DON'T THINK THE 12MM PIXELS WILL BE BRIGHT ENOUGH FOR A NIGHT CLUB SETTING, UNLESS YOU WERE TO USE SEVERAL PIXELS PER BRICK. A BETTER ALTERNATIVE MIGHT BE THE 36MM PIXELS...THESE ARE NOT ONLY MUCH BRIGHTER, BUT ARE EXTREMELY THIN. SHIFTBRITES OR MEGABRITES FROM MACETECH WOULD ALSO BE A GOOD CHOICE. I'D SUGGEST PROTOTYPING A SMALL SECTION BEFORE COMMITTING TO THE WHOLE THING.

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I THINK THAT TRYING TO PUT THE LEDS INSIDE THE BRICKS WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT AND WILL MAKE IT TOUGH TO SERVICE THE LEDS NO MATTER WHAT SIZE THEY ARE. FOR YOUR ONE SIDED PANELS I WOULD RECOMMEND PUTTING THE LEDS ON THE BLIND SIDE OF THE WALL, AND FOR THE ROOM DIVIDERS I WOULD RECOMMEND MAKING THE WALL EITHER DOUBLE THICK WITH A SPACE IN THE MIDDLE FOR AN LED FRAMEWORK, OR USE A SKINNIER TYPE OF GLASS BRICK. THIS WAY YOU CAN USE PRETTY MUCH ANY TYPE OF LED PIXEL AND CAN CHANGE THEM OUT WITH NO FUSS.

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Re: HOW TO BUILD A DISCO PANEL WITH SINGLE PRE-WIRED RGB LEDS

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MAYBE IF WE TURN DOWN THE MUSIC... We can speak in normal voices.

There. That's better. :wink:

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THANX A LOT GUYS BUT I HAVE DECIDED TO PUT 3 OF THOSE 12MM RGB LEDS IN EACH GLASS BRICK. IT WILL DEFINATELY LOOK BETTER WHEN THE LED IS INSIDE THE BRICK ALTHOUH IT WONT BE UPTO THE MIDDLE OF THE BRICK.IF I SPACE THEM OUT EVENLY THE 3 HOLES IN THE BLOCK WILL BE 65mm APART WHICH IS PERFECT COS IF I REMEMBR CORRECTLY THE LEDS ARE 70 OR 80 mm APART. I WILL LEAVE A GAP OF 16mm BETWEEN THE BLOCKS VERTICALLY WHICH WILL BE COVERED BY A REMOVABLE WHITE COVER STRIP TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THE LEDS .
IF SOMBODY COULD ASSIST ME WITH A WIRING DIAGRAM HOW TO WIRE THE DIFFERENT PANELS TO THE CONTROLERS AN POWER SUPPLIES PLEASE GUYS I KNO NOTHING BOUT THAT!!!

PANEL 1 WILL HAVE 5 horizontal rows x 52 bricks in each row = 260 blocks X 3 leds =780 LEDS
IT MUST FUNCTION ON ITS OWN AN MUST BE CONNECTED TO THE DJ BOX WHICH IS 15m AWAY FROM PANEL
THE PANEL MUST FLASH TO THE BEAT OF THE MUSIC AND THE DJ MUST BE ABLE TO CONTROL THE LIGHT SHOW WITH PRE PROGRAMED LIGHT SETS ACCORDING TO HIS CHOICE OF SONG(SO HE MUST MIX THE LIGHT SHOW AS HE WOULD MIX THE SONGS)
IN FUTURE I WANT TO ADD ANOTHER 2 PANELS INSIDE THE DISCO(PANEL 6 THAT WILL COVER THE DJ COUNTER FROM THE FLOOR TO THE COUNTER TOP IN TUBE LEDS 6 OR 7 VERTICAL ROWS WITH PROBABLY 10 TUBES IN EACH ROW THAT WILL LOOK LIKE A GIANT EQUALISER WITH THE TUBES LIGHTING UP IN A VERTICAL MOTION) AND (PANEL 7 WHICH WIL BE SIMILAR TO PANEL 1)
SO PLEASE BEAR IN MIND THAT THE DMX CONTROLLERS AND POWER SUPPLIES MUST HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY FOR THE ADDITION OF LETS SAY ANOTHER 800 LEDS

PANEL 2 WILL HAVE 5 horizontal rows x 25 blocks in each row = 125 blocks x 3 leds = 375 leds
PANEL 3,4,5 WILL HAVE 6 horizontal rows x 9 blocks in each row = 54 blocks x 3 leds = 162 leds IN EACH PANEL X 3 = 486 leds
PANEL 2,3,4 AND 5 ARE IN ANOTHER BAR AND MUST BE ABLE TO FUNCTION TOGETHER AS A GROUP AND INDIVIDUALLY ALTHOUGH 3,4 AND 5 WILL OPERATE TOGETHER MOST OF THE TIME BECAUSE THEY ARE CLOSE TOGETHER WITH 3m GAPS INBETWEEN THEM AND THEY ACT AS ROOM DEVIDERS
I WILL TAKE SUM PICS AS THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOIN ON TO PROVIDE U GUYS WITH A PROGRESS ALBUM . IM VERY EXITED BOUT THIS PROJECT AND I APRECIATE YOUR INPUTS VERY MUCH. I WONT B ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT U GEEKS !!! COS IF I HAD TO GET SOMONE IN AS A CONTRACTOR TO DO THE JOB I WILL BE BANCRUPT!!!! MY PATRONS ARE MOSTLY BLACK PPL FROM RURAL AREAS AND WE ARE IN A SMALL RURAL TOWN IN KWAZULU NATAL PROVINCE OF SOUTH BANNED AND THE MONY IS THIN!!! BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM SOME WOW ENTERTAINMENT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT
REGARDS GERT CLAASSEN

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DO U GUYS AGREE WITH ME THAT A CLEAR LED WILL WORK BETTER THAN A DIFFUSED LED?? IM THINKIN IT WILL SHINE BETTER INTO THE GLASS BRICK? I SEE ADAFRUIT ONLY STOCKS THE DIFFUSED LED.WILL IT BE POSSIBLE TO SUPPLY ME THOSE LEDS WITH A CLEAR LENS??

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